5/25/15 Update:
All of the old links are dubious or bad. This
info. about the Hexavalent Chromium in HHO cell waste water is new.
Adventures
in Hydroxy Gas: Reducing Hexavalent Chromium in Waste Water
Reducing Hexavalent Chromium in Waste Water, UPDATED: 4 Aug
08, I
had a viewer on YouTube leave me a comment about the dangers of
Hexavalent Chromium in the waste water of my Hydroxy experiments.
This
made me concerned about what it was I was doing, but the warning only
told me to watch the movie "Erin Brokovich" to see how bad it was.
Oh,
and don't throw away the water.
First
pass
calculation on quantity of gas required for running 100% HHO 0.0%
gasoline. EngineFuel-saltwater.html
Hi,
Here's the
last 2 days of lessons and a recap. .
http://www.water4gas.com/7/day6-jk.htm
http://www.water4gas.com/7/day7-hm.htm
Some
itemized observations and assumptions:
1. I think the process for
making HHO works and that some savings
around 20-50% are possible and probably relatively easy to do.
2. The idea of using regular
gas instead of Hi Test (93 octane) is
OK b/c of the octane of HHO is 130. The current price
differential
between regular and Hi Test is about $.21 = .21/4.29 = 5% initial
savings.
3. I think the idea of
'Hydrogen Boost' as an addon is better than
running on 'total HHO' b/c of the major changes necessary to make it
work. For instance running at close to 100% HHO the flame
speed would
require setting the vacuum advance from 10 deg. "Before Top Dead
Center" to 0% TDC. And you would have to completely stop the gasoline
flow. [If the engine was set up to run totally on HHO when you ran out
of water or broke
down it would be a major issue with getting it
fixed. Just the impossibility of communication/education of
the
available mechanic(s) would be huge. Some of the major
changes for
100% HHO [0% TDC] could not be easily reversed to get the car
running.] If you were just using the Hydrogen Boost and it
broke you
could still limp around until you could get it fixed.
4. They advertise an EIFI
circuit board to take care of the oxygen
sensor so that it doesn't make the HHO +gasoline mixture run too
rich.
I think it has an Off switch to return to all gasoline flow.
5. One point that I haven't found much info on is
the amount of maintenance required to keep the HHO flowing.
It has
been mentioned that a red sludge will build up in the distilled water
bottle. I would NOT be interested in cleaning the bottle(s)
every week
or every month. For example we do not have to do anything
with the
gasoline now except change filters, repair /replace broken parts.
6. It seems to me that if it
was real good and real common that
some mechanics would be advertising the sale and installation of a HHO
system(s). Or least they would be able to fix them if it
needed
repair. They must be concerned about patent infringements
etc.. Which
means you would have to be the chief honcho over the care and operation
of the HHO booster kit.
7. Most of the people are
selling books with additional tips and
methods for saving gasoline. There is the principal of
Diminishing
Returns so that each 'saver item' added can only save a fraction of the
energy that is left. It is important to install the largest
energy
savers first. The payback, if any, on the others grow
longer.
8. Some of the kit costs are
so huge that you might never get to
the break even point much less Save any money.
8. One of the additional
'saver items' was a fuel heater. I
originally thought that it would be applied to the gasoline since I've
seen them before and recognized that they don't deliver much
savings.
However if it was applied to the HHO fuel I could see where a heated
and enlarged HHO gas might replace a larger quantity of the air +
gasoline mixture and increase the savings potential.
9. I don't think it would harm
cast iron engines at all. Some
people mentioned rust might appear in the engines but that would not
stop me from doing it. You could prevent that with an Off
switch -
just run gasoline for the last mile of your trip and dry out all the
moisture. I would have to try to learn more about HHO and
aluminum
engines reactions before going 100% in engines with aluminum.
10. I don't give a rip about
the environmental carbon issues or
concerns.
Sincerely,
RE Klenk, - If you
don't vote your values,
they will make evil legal.- rek (727-526-4790)
rek wrote:
It looks like they are covering all of the issues.
http://www.water4gas.com/7/day5-fd.htm
http://www.water4gas.com/7/day4-nf.htm
http://www.water4gas.com/7/day3-dg.htm
Sincerely,
-------- Original Message --------
I
had to resend it AGAIN b/c water4gas had javascript embedded to
truncate all but current lesson. I don't want to reformat every lesson
so the rest of them will be individual lessons probably without
comment. If you aren't interested let me know and I'll take you off of
the list. If this doesn't work I will only send the daily updates.
-------- Original Message --------
Dear Student, R eK
Welcome to Day 2 of our 7-Day Course "The Water4Gas Way To Save Fuel & Save Earth".
Today
you will start to learn BASIC PRINCIPLES OF SAVING FUEL WITH WATER,
HYDROGEN & OXYGEN. To start this lesson click the link below. If it
doesn't take you to there, copy the complete link and paste it into the
ADDRESS LINE (not the search line) of your browser:
http://www.water4gas.com/7/day2-ck.htm>http://www.water4gas.com/7/day2-ck.htm
Sincerely,
-------- Original Message --------
rek wrote:
Hi,
I listened to what the Japan video/link below said. They said about
1
Liter would run that little car at 80 Km/hr for about 1 hour.
1 Km = .62 mile therefore : 0.62 m/km x
80 km/hr = 49.6 mph say 50
MPH.
So what would be the approximate consumption for an
American car?
To KISS
lets say it would have to go 100 mph ( =2 L HHO/hr) and the Am. car
size(weight)
= 4 Japan mini cars ( =4 L HHO/hr). Therefore an Am car with capacity
of 100 mph /+/- would require 6 L. HHO/hr or = 3 quarts /+/- of
water/hr.
Let's say you only wanted to fill up on water at the same time you fill
up
on gas, what size water tank is needed?
For HHO fuel usage and tank size comparison
purposes the Caddy
can go
from St. Pete to vacation (1000 mile) and get 22-24 mpg at 50-63
average mph say 55
m/h. Then: 1000 mi /23 mpg = 44 gal. How much fuel is used per hr on
that
trip? The 1000 mi trip is usually completed in less that 2 driving days
at 8
hrs/day. Therefore 44 gal divided by 16 hr = 2.7 gal/hr.
[about $11
/hr]
This says to me that for the equivalent trip distance (20 gal/tank x 23
mpg
= 460 mi) between gas refills; the HHO water tank size would be
approximately ; ( where 3 quarts HHO/hr = .75 gal
HHO/hr) so that:
X HHO tank / 20 gal gas tank is proportional
to .75 g HHO/hr
/2.7 gal
gas/hr or X HHO tank = 20 g x .75 / 2.7 = 6 gal water tank.
This also says that if I'm going on vacation this summer the fuel cost
is
going to be at least 44g x $4 = $176 one way. [6/17/08 & 7/1/08
corrections.]
Sincerely,
RE Klenk,
rek wrote:
I
snip
Today you will start to learn HOW TO HANDLE INSANE GAS PRICES. If it
doesn't
take you there, copy the complete link and paste it into the ADDRESS
LINE (not
the search line) of your browser:
http://www.water4gas.com/7/day1-bx.htm
RE Klenk,
http://www.water4gas.com/7/day1-bx.htm
--
Hi,
This 7 day lesson was a bust. I got 1 page
of more
sales info and that's
all. However the concept appears to be a done deal.
Look at what
Japan has done.
http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=84561&feedType=VideoRSS&feedName=Environment&rpc=18&videoChannel=74
Sincerely,
RE Klenk,- If you don't vote your values, they will make evil legal.-
rek (727-526-4790)